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"The only restriction says there shall be no foreign occupation force, but as we know from Iraq and Afghanistan, you can have an awful lot of troops on the ground fighting and not call it an occupation," says Phyllis Bennis, explaining the United Nations resolution that led a coalition of troops to start bombing Libya this weekend. Phyllis joins us via Skype from Washington, D.C. to fill us in on the story behind the decision to intervene in Libya, who the players are, why this matters, and whether we're in this one too for the long haul. "The notion that destruction is the way to salvation is like a Gulf Stream current running underneath the surface of Western civilization," says James Carroll, author most recently of Jerusalem, Jerusalem. Carroll, a former Catholic priest, looks at the way the city of Jerusalem has been central to the Western imagination, conflict, and resolution to that conflict, and notes that he still has hope that we can find away around the violence that has been so central to our lives for millennia. James joins Laura in studio to discuss his book, his travels to and relationship with the city of Jerusalem, and what he hopes we can learn from that city. Last week, a Republican-appointed judge ruled with the Wisconsin protesters that the session that passed the bill may have violated the law, which requires 24 hours notice on a vote. She put a stay on implementation of the bill, and Laura has some thoughts. Distributed by Tubemogul.